Just to chime in on all of the elitism going on here. VMG..you DO remember the little fleet we had for that first fort when this war started right..you know, the one you did not show up for. It was the right call. Also, when aggressed in Niarja and was going to lose, you ran off and docked before the fleet arrived. Again, a wise choice. Retreating from a fight you cannot win is not a loss..you do it, we do it..we all do it. What's a loss is trying to fight when you know you can't win..just as you have done as well. So please..enough of the egotistic elitism thinking you "won" a battle because the other side chose wisely not to fight ..just as you do. Keep in mind, the only difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome. Fighting a fight that's suicide is not bravery, it's stupidity. I know you know this.

There are a lot of VMG members I like..and some who are my friends (bet you didn't know that :) ). The bottom line is, and you know this all too well, you fight when you can and regroup when you can't. It is the way of things and the way of a good strategy. I couldn't care less about the epeen waving or testosterone. A fact is a fact.

There is a lot more I could get into here but I'll spare the readers the BS and myself the arguments of futility from those who won't agree. I will say, however..this did not turn out like you expected did it. You see, Sol has been feeding you BS from the start. Truth is, he really doesn't know..unless ofc we want him to "know".

Let's cut the BS plz. We are both better than that..at least I would hope so.

Also, perhaps try a fight w/o 3 logi per member..it's whole new ball game..then you actually have to fit wisely..rather than shiny and depend on neutrals to keep you alive. But hey, I'm not judging.

Another fortizar saved, thanks to Atype and CD, triumphing over the forces of vmg/PE/pirat once again... And because VMG are just terrified of PL.

Hire Atype, we'll be there for your fort in the sky when you need us.